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29 Nov 2018
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08:13:10@marin:verse.imMarinSo when you say 5D, what do you mean? I've heard of the 4th dimension being time, but this just flies over me.
08:15:11@eric:ericmartindale.com@martindaleRedacted or Malformed Event
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08:15:52@eric:ericmartindale.com@martindale Oh, re: Verse? I think you're already familiar with it; it's just the recursion provided by nested locations. You know, how the new /descend command works.
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sent an image.
@marin:verse.im: what do you think of this?
08:24:29@marin:verse.imMarinAaaaah.
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22:29:00@eric:ericmartindale.com@martindaleFood for thought: https://nicepage.com/doc/article/20348/web-design-3-0-when-your-web-design-really-matters
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Hmm... Interesting read. Idk, i always thought of 2.0 as around the time we started using ajax, jquery, and the tableless layouts that made it inevitable that someone would invent bootstrap. I remember making an stylesheet with classes like .X-1{width: 65px; } . X-2{width: 130px; }… and so on, in maybe 07? The idea was in every ones head. Style guides for graphic design use grids, we had to make what the designers designed.

The article makes out like bootstrap is the thing preventing free positioning. When it really is just a better solution for dealing with the cross browser Issues that made that so difficult. I worked at a design Heavy place at the beginning of my career. And that was half of my job to make weird shit work.

Cross browser compatibility has given way to it's nightmare progeny, responsive design. And I don't see any way to handle that for mobile. Except maybe joke like, "oh well fuck mobile" just like we used to say, "fuck IE" and then spend the week before launch fixing fucking IE bugs.

Seriously though fuck IE. Remember that "multiple IEs" piece of shit program 🤮 ?

19:50:18@eric:ericmartindale.com@martindale 3lit3h4xx0r666: component-based design kinda helps, but it doesn't teach the user about CSS and user-defined styles...
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17:26:56@3lit3h4xx0r666:matrix.org3lit3h4xx0r666

its not really a medium that works that way… or like anything has in the past for us to. draw ideas from

for web 3.0, I think we should just make everything an imagemap, and spend more time on security

25 Apr 2019
01:06:39@eric:ericmartindale.com@martindalewhat ever happened to web 2.0, or did we give up on that already
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